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    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle.M View Post
    Okaaay . . .



    . . . but that's utter nonsense and you know it. Please present the link or source of that "study" that you "read" or I'm gonna have to call this for what it probably is - a bold face lie.

    That "transsexual as gay" nonsense is an unqualified generality used by the religious right (among others) to misinform the public and delegitimize the struggle of transgender people to simply live honest and authentic lives. You should be ashamed of yourself for bringing that nonsense here.
    link o he full text
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894986/
    Arch Sex Behav. 2011 April; 40(2): 247–257.
    Published online 2009 December 29. doi: 10.1007/s10508-009-9579-2
    PMCID: PMC2894986
    NIHMSID: NIHMS172372
    A Further Assessment of Blanchard’s Typology of Homosexual Versus Non-Homosexual or Autogynephilic Gender Dysphoria
    Larry Nuttbrock,corresponding author Walter Bockting, Mona Mason, Sel Hwahng, Andrew Rosenblum, Monica Macri, and
    Measured categorically, 68.5%, 12.4%, 16.8%, and 2.1% of the 571 MTFs were classified as homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, or asexual, respectively. Measured along the continuous scale of androphilia, 8.6%were low,19.1%were intermediate, and 71.8% were high. Measured along the continuous scale of gynephilia, 63.7% were low, 20.8% were intermediate, and 14.7% were high.

    I was in error about the percent which seems to be 76%
    Current scientific controversies: different treatment strategies section of this paper
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...0/?tool=pubmed
    Dtsch Arztebl Int. 2008 November; 105(48): 834–841.
    Published online 2008 November 28. doi: 10.3238/arztebl.2008.0834
    All of the 21 patients who received a new diagnosis of GID in our clinic up to mid-2008 (aged 5 to 17; 12 boys, 9 girls) had psychopathological abnormalities that, in many cases, led to the diagnosis of additional psychiatric disorders. As a rule, there were also major psychopathological abnormalities in their parents. The "motive for switching" among the 15 adolescents in the group was mainly a rejected (egodystonic) homosexual orientation (see figure), the development of which would have been arrested by puberty-blocking treatments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rianna Humble View Post
    Busker, I'm sorry, I cannot accept your redefinition of what makes someone transsexual. We do not "become transsexual" by doing something, we are born transsexual.

    There is a debate amongst some post-op trans women about whether they can just drop the "trans" appellation and I do not wish to engage with that debate, but you are wrong about post-ops never returning to this site - some have contributed to this very thread.

    As someone who declares themself "just a crossdresser", you are probably right that you cannot know what it is to be a woman, but those of us who are women (albeit for pre-ops and non-ops with a body that does not match) things are different. In general we cannot truly know what it is to be a man.
    This would suggest otherwise
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...0/?tool=pubmed
    Dtsch Arztebl Int. 2008 November; 105(48): 834–841.
    Published online 2008 November 28. doi: 10.3238/arztebl.2008.0834

    Neurobiological genetic research has not yet convincingly shown any predominant role for genetic or hormonal factors in the etiology of GID (1).
    Even among children who manifest a major degree of discomfort with their own sex, including an aversion to their own genitalia (GID in the strict sense), only a minority go on to an irreversible development of transsexualism (6). Irreversibility of the manifestations, however, is considered to be an indispensable requirement before the diagnosis of transsexualism can be made, or any body-altering treatments initiated. In England and Canada, in accordance with this view, hormonal treatment or surgery is not recommended until the patient’s somatic and psychosexual development is complete.
    . Though prospective studies are lacking, a consensus of opinion holds that gender identity disorders in children and adolescents are often associated with serious emotional and behavioral problems and with a high psychiatric comorbidity (1, 8)
    Multiple publications have concerned a possible traumatic etiology of gender identity disorders (14) and an overlap of the psychopathological findings in GID with those of borderline personality disorder (15, e11, e12, e13), although there is some controversy on the latter point (16). A profound disturbance of the mother-child relationship can often be empirically demonstrated and is postulated to be a causative factor (e14).
    Other authors, in line with psychoanalytic theory, do not attribute the desire to belong to the opposite sex to any prior trauma. Rather, they postulate the formation of a classic neurotic compromise, in which the child symbolically achieves a symbiotic fusion with the loved parent by switching genders

    The irreversability is only diagnosed after one reaches puberty so it seems that one cannot be born a transsexual but one can be born with GID.
    Last edited by Rianna Humble; 03-12-2013 at 03:27 PM. Reason: You should know better that to multi post
    JUST a crossdresser

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