Quote Originally Posted by PaulaQ View Post
I'm not sure I understand what's ironic about any of that. This is a forum, at least in part about gender. Exploring what makes us perceived as being either masculine or feminine seems like a legitimate discussion to me.

Not all women are feminine, btw. I know some very, very masculine ones. The ones who are generally perceived as feminine are generally unable to explain why people perceive them as they do. I know, because I ask all of them.

This may seem like a fairly silly and academic exercise to many on this forum, but it matters to me a great deal because I spend a fair amount of my time trying to understand this stuff, because I'd like to pass, because *I am* a woman. Convincing the outside world of this is another matter, though. So each time I'm misgendered, I like to try to understand what I did wrong. (I also know that to some of us here, each such failure is simply proof to them that I'm simply some poor, deluded man.)

As I said, this may seem pointless to you. You, and many others here, are male-identified, and cross dressing in public is not such a serious matter for you - if you are really having a bad time of it that day, you can pack it in, switch back to boy-mode, and take care of business. I have no such luxury, so this stuff is important to me.

I'm ridiculed when I get it wrong sometimes - many of us are. Ridicule isn't so bad - some of us are actually attacked when we get it wrong. That's a lot worse, and so questions on the nature of being femme are of rather critical importance to us trans women. Often they are questions of dignity or safety. I know many in society disagree that we deserve such considerations, but I'd hope that on this forum, most of us could understand why we'd want them.
PaulaQ, you explain things beautifully. Being a GG, it is hard to explain what makes a real person feminine (as opposed to just a dictionary description). As a woman, I sometimes resent the role I'm supposed to assume. I respect you so much...You and your journey. Sorry...I know that doesn't help much!!!