Wikipedia indicates the term was first coined in 1965 by psychiatrist John F. Oliven ? And first used by Virginia Prince in 1969 in an issue of Transvestia? If we trust Wiki isn't it plausible the term was being used from the late 60s on in discussions amongst folk not dissimilar to ourselves, trying to understand and describe the what and why of all the flavours of our shared passion?

Now we're getting into debating origins of a word which we still can't completely agree on the meaning of!

Reine - your earlier post listing the diverse interpretations of both TG and CD (and probably not all of them either...) was very pertinent to Isha's original point - we sometimes seem to place more emphasis on fragmentation than community; defining our own little silo rather than accepting we are part of a bigger picture, perhaps because justifiably, some of us are reticent to be categorised with others. Perfectly understandable, as I believe there also existed (or exists) similar semantic conflicts amongst the LGB community.

How about we put TV, TG and TS together as the 'BIG-T' community? Or just 'T' or Trans? That is common to all the descriptors....? And there can't be anyone who doesn't fit under that... can there...???

(OK - I know it won't fly, but I felt I had to try... )

Can we please also try to keep the discussion on Isha's OP around Community?

Now I must go back to negotiating a truce between Kiev and Moscow...

Da svidaniya, tovarich...

Katey x