Just A or B Nadine (and Nigella...) - but where would be the fun in that...??? And seems like I missed the overnight fun too...

I think this needs to be addressed:

Quote Originally Posted by Candice Mae View Post
To me some one that is a CIS gendered male and wears a dress and acts in his mind "Feminine" is as much TG as a cat is a dog. If there is no gender dysphoria is the person really TG? Or just an actor/actress wearing a costume and playing a role? Some CD's may like to think that their need to dress runs deeper, but in the end it is usually just for sexually gratification.
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Quote Originally Posted by Candice Mae View Post
Those definitions are black and white your either one or the other, you identify 100% as your birth gender you are CISgendered, if you do not identify 100% with your birth gender you are TG.
I've felt before here that some of those who are TS see the world in a much more binary way than crossdressers do. I can imagine it must be hard to comprehend that an individual can have not just aspects of masculine and feminine, as we all have that to some degree, but that those aspects need to have distinctly separate expressions. We don't suffer GD - permanently... we have something similar but fleeting and partial that drives us to express this part of us and the most visible way of doing that is the same way that a TS also expresses their true identity: visually through clothing and appearance.

No - we're not the same. We have similarities, and while the underlying cause may be related, chances are it is probably quite different. Lori has it right with the Niemoller quote, but a pithier variant on a theme is available from one of your own countrymen:

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.


The TG umbrella IS arbitrary and it does clump some disparate groupings together, and while I can understand conceptually what it means to be TS, but struggle to understand why I need to do what I'm driven to do, if I feel comfortable supporting this umbrella, why wouldn't you want me?

And a further misconception:

Quote Originally Posted by Kaitlyn Michele View Post
you choose to step out of societies "rules" for men...
After all that's written on here with so many of us that struggle with a 'middle path' of part-time presentation, why do you continue to believe that all of us 'choose' to do this? Seriously - I'd love just to be able to just dress up as a civil-war re-enactor at weekends if it was about being an actor, but it isn't - and it hasn't been for fifty, freakin' years... Please give a little credence to the possibility that we might actually have some sort of condition that drives us to do this - a lot of the time it isn't fun to experience the conflict we undergo and the confusion that either cis-gendered or transitioned mis-gendered folk don't have (anymore).

Katey x