What Is She Thinking????

[ellbee]

I do agree with the members who suggested that some of these GGs might think you are gay.

I've always found this to be really odd (and yes, many guys will think the same about a CD'er).

Maybe it's because I'm already well-versed in this community, knowing that a huge percentage (at least 80-90%?) are, indeed, hetero. And if you think about it, why would a gay male be attracted to someone wearing women's clothing? In my experience, as well in others', a gay male wants someone who looks & dresses like a guy.

I've been to enough gay clubs before. If it's not "drag night," or a typical drag club, in general, there will be *tons* of "regular-looking" men there. Like, up to a good 95% (with the rest being GG's & those somewhere on the CD/TG/TS spectrum). Come in all shapes & sizes & colors, too. And if I saw many of them on the street, I'd have no idea that they were gay.


Anyway, it's just a really weird thought to have, IMO, and one that really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Where does this notion that CD'ers are gay, come from?


P.S. Reine is a GG (born female, thru & thru) -- and she's probably one of the most rational members here.

[Lorileah]

One thing we do have in common, I think, we both wear panties, I know I do, how about you. Thongs can be substituted and are allowed instead of panties.

So I guess that's the criteria: underwear. Thank you all for coming, drive safe.

girls are too irrational for me to even begin to think of what they are thinking. My rational male mind can only think of rational thoughts that make sense, but girls are far too irrational and complex to even come close.

congratulations, you just explained "mansplaining".

Honestly as mentioned above, people have an agenda. If you aren't part of that agenda or interfering with that agenda they don't even know you exist.

So now we know wearing "their" clothes must confuse or annoy them. We know that crossdressers are not only competition but also willing to go above and beyond to please a man. Women are irrational (and yet they don't end up in the ER near as often as rational males ). We know colors are gender specific. We know when anyone looks at a transgendered person they think "Gay...gotta be gay"

Shall we retire to the library and have some brandy and cigars now?

[VeronicaMoonlit]

Shall we retire to the library and have some brandy and cigars now?

Indeed, and we shall tut-tut those radical bloomers who have the deucedly silly notion of suffrage for women. By jove, they'll be wanting to own property in their own names next

:Rolleyes:

In case some CD's arent quick on the uptake, I am being sarcastic and poking fun at the chauvinism.

And also, using the phrasing “the females“ where “women“ should be used makes one sound socially inept or like a Ferengi.

Veronica

[Gwyneth]

I really thought this was a forum that we could post simple things on and just get replies. I thought if you didn't like a particular subject you would simply go to the next topic. If the OP wants to post a lot of "what if" in this case "what are they thinking" the one's that wanted to post would put up cute comments. But there's a lot of judgement on this thread.

Deebra I think you deserve better.

[Jenniferathome]

Well Bart, you are in the wrong place then. People post ideas and others post theirs. If someone posts nonsense:facepalm:, they get it wth both barrels. I don't know where you go to get "cute" answers.

[Gwyneth]

I guess I was expecting a free zone. Nonsense is in the eye of the beholder.

[phylis anne]

Hey Bart ---What jennifer says and boy doe s she use both barrels the people on this board come from all areas ,some are c/d some are t/g ,some (me included } are :tweeners:
and some more are not quite sure where they fit .Some are deep in the closet ,some are totally out ,some live full time we are all different with different ideas on who or what we are strap in and enjoy the ride

[ReineD]

One thing we do have in common, I think, we both wear panties, I know I do, how about you. Thongs can be substituted and are allowed instead of panties.

Me? Well, actually ....

I'll leave it at that. lol.


As to just wanting to know what GGs think, Deebra each time you start a thread like this you get the same answers! The answers will not change from one month to the next and honestly, no one really knows! lol. The only way to really know what any individual GG thinks, is to ask her and hope she is honest with her answers. Or have a neutral third party conduct anonymous surveys at several malls, to get a good cross-reference of people.

One of our members, Marcelle, conducted a small experiment about this a few years ago. She went into stores and browsed around or bought a few things, and then sent in her GG friend right after she left the store to see if the GG friend could pick up on any comments made by staff and other shoppers after Marcelle's departure.

Here's the experiment. It's an interesting read:

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...ent&highlight=

And this was in Canada, a place that I believe is generally more liberal than many parts of the US!

[deebra]

Guynbart thank you for the last sentence.

ReineD I hope you know the panty comment was just throwing in a little fun. Your answer leaves a lot of us wondering whether you wear thongs, bikinis, grannies or commando; are panties an age teller or how you think, young and sexy or over the hill. Come on, tell us what you wear so we'll know how old you are and how you think? Me, young and sexy, thongs first, bikini's second, commando for comfort. I challenge you, don't chicken out.

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Reine, I just read the experiment by Isha and it really said a lot and helped me with my question, thanks for providing it. Cudos to the VS manager, she handled it great. To bad some people don't understand us, that we are born CD and it's there for life and be accepting and positive of people different than they are.

[Ressie]

One of our members, Marcelle, conducted a small experiment about this a few years ago. She went into stores and browsed around or bought a few things, and then sent in her GG friend right after she left the store to see if the GG friend could pick up on any comments made by staff and other shoppers after Marcelle's departure.

Marecelle's experiment reveals something about human nature. That is, many people don't want to say what they're really thinking as they want to appear to be nice, kind etc. I'd guess many people are shocked to see a crossdresser if they've never seen one in public before. But they don't want to appear rude by saying what they're thinking.

[char GG]

Well, my co-worker called a crossdresser "shim" (she-him). Obviously not to his face, but after he left the room.

[ReineD]

I guess I was expecting a free zone. Nonsense is in the eye of the beholder.

You mean a place where members can post their wishful thinking as if it is reality?

Yes, this does happen here in many threads without any disturbance. But once in a while, those threads get responses from those who do think it important, occasionally, to inject reality.

[Krisi]

Well, my co-worker called a crossdresser "shim" (she-him). Obviously not to his face, but after he left the room.

It's usually "he/she" in my part of the country.

[dolovewell]

ReineD I hope you know the panty comment was just throwing in a little fun. Your answer leaves a lot of us wondering whether you wear thongs, bikinis, grannies or commando; are panties an age teller or how you think, young and sexy or over the hill. Come on, tell us what you wear so we'll know how old you are and how you think? Me, young and sexy, thongs first, bikini's second, commando for comfort. I challenge you, don't chicken out.

Do you ask women in real life what kind of underwear they wear?

[Stephanie47]

"Fun question?" Well, she is probably thinking I better pick that guy up, take 'shim' home, and, screw the heck out of her! Women always have raw sex on the brain! (OK, give me both barrels! )

[deebra]

dolovewell, remember the commercial on t.v. where two women are setting on a bench in the park checking out guys and guessing are they wearing boxers or brief's, Michael Jordan comes walking by, knows what they are doing, smiles and says don't even ask. He just might be a CD and won't tell????

If you know the woman well enough she might enjoy you asking and her telling you, then be ready for her asking you what you are wearing; and if you tell her women's string bikini panties where might this go from here?????????

[Jenniferathome]

Deebra, what color is the sky in your world?

[ellbee]

Jennifer,

Apparently too difficult to say, due to all the fog.



Anyway, all the GG's who I've come out to have *never* made it sexual.

Some will be genuinely interested in it all, and start asking me all these questions ("How do you get your make-up to look so good?") or making comments ("You look better as a girl than as a guy!"), etc.

Some will even go so far as to slide their hand a bit on my freshly-shaved bare legs (at the shins ).


But sexual? No.

Please stop thinking like a guy all the time.

[char GG]

Stephanie, your man card is showing.

[deebra]

Jennifer in my world I look up at the sky everyday and appreciate how beautiful it is and everyday it is different and thank God for giving it to us. And sometimes when the pink fog rolls in it just might come from a pink sky. Nothing perverted here, just thinking young and playful.

As I said if you know the woman well enough and you both like to joke around and some of the joking a little on the sexy side I'm relative sure asking her while joking wouldn't offend her. She might enjoy not telling to keep him wondering or she might say something like I wear different every day, you have one guess, if you guess right I will tell. I know from experience women enjoy playful banter and it doesn't have to be straight laced. Her telling doesn't mean she will take them off and he may not be interested in getting into them. If he would tell her he wears panties also she might really be interested in why he wears panties and this could lead to an interesting discussion why he would want to.

[rachael.davis]

"Women" don't have a hive mind, or a given set of responses they take from one handbook. I've met with remarkable kindness from a couple of elderly women, and mockery from a couple of millennials.

[dolovewell]

If he would tell her he wears panties also she might really be interested in why he wears panties and this could lead to an interesting discussion why he would want to.

Thats fantasy and not reality. There may be a diamond in the rough type of women who would be interested but I am assuming most women would be creeped out and either end the conversation or change the subject. I doubt many women would have a positive reaction to a guy telling her he wears panties and want to continue the conversation.

I have told 3 girlfriends in the past that I crossdress and all of them reacted the same way. Creeped out and not interested in discussing it at all. I think if I told them I wear women's underwear instead of crossdressing they would have reacted even worse.

[deebra]

Dolovewell you, Jennifer and I would never have a meeting of the minds on this; I can't help but think that at least some women and men aren't that closed minded that they wouldn't want to have a little discussion on why he likes to wear women's clothes. Me, I would like to know why some want to be a marine or navy seal, or boxer or cage fighter (to fight, hurt or kill or be killed ???). You have to ask to know and listening to the other person with an open mind then you can begin to understand why they do what they do.

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BTY Dolovewell you have great measurements and look every bit an attractive woman, you are truly blessed to be able to present so nicely. I sure this leads to a lot of girly time out and about.

[Jessica86]

Whew! This was an interesting read. I will start by saying you should never, and I mean never, make comments about GGs mixed with questions that have a sexual goal. You will be tarred and feathered for it. Every time. Why? I will tell you it is because some members put GGs willing to talk crossdressing on a pedestal, and they can not think, say or do wrong. Just give that up.

I can see where Guynbart is coming from but they do not know just HOW to say it. I think a better way to put it is that women generally are more competitive with each other, not men, as in when is the last time a woman cared what a man is doing? How about their friends? There's a reason why my wife sends more than 5000 texts a month to her friends, when my one liners only add up to 6 or 7 hundred. When a CD/TS is seen in public, they are now part of the competition because they are seen as a woman. Not a guy in a dress. Do they all think that? No. I can see Guynbarts point, but do not believe it happens as much as they perceive. After all, they are not competing with a CD....in THEIR mind. It's funny how so many CD/TS will have comments on how a GGs mind works....all I go on is evidence.

If women do not compete with each other, than how come millions are made each year on cosmetic ads featuring female celebs? There are SO many women's tabloids, are there any for men? Car and Driver is as close as you get. We could care LESS about what Brad Pitt is doing. I JUST found out Angelina Jolie is divorced! I found that out from my wife. I didn't care! I looked at her and told her uhhmm....ok....LOL. I don't buy a truck because JJ Watt is driving it, or tires because Dwayne Johnson is holding them up. I simply don't care.

To answer the OP question. I think they see a freak (if not passable). If passable, they see you no different. Then you are not judged by your sex, it is what you have on. I have heard girl friends of mine say "Man, she is dressed like such a ****. That's nasty." I never look at a guy and say "Dude, we get it, you work out. Put a tee shirt on." Nope, again. Back to what was said before. It CAN BE a competition for attention. To say it could not, even in the least bit, is an uneducated statement.