Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Ann View Post
Francis, perhaps you are right. But it occurs to me that in some instances that is what therapy is intended to do, such as when someone is suicidal or filled with self loathing (not particularly over gender issues).
You cannot change someone's gender, and gender deprivation can lead to suicidal thought and self loathing. There is no behavior modification possible here. The therapeutic process in the case of trans people should be about dealing with all concomitant issues to see if they have any incidence on the quest for reassignment. I.e. does the person seek reassignment because of depression or is the person depressed about not being able to get reassigned. After that, it is about seeing if the condition endures. That is why gatekeeping-style gender clinics will demand a two year wait before SRS and even hormones in some cases. If the patient/client still feels the same after two years, then it will probably not go away.

I have seen people delude themselves into wanting to be trans. Most trans people do not want to be trans or wish it on their worst enemy.

How do you know you are a man? You just know right, it's the same for trans people, except that society is communicating back the opposite gender. If that won't f**k up anyone's mind, I don't know what will. Of course we are suicidal and self loathing.

It's Frances with a E as in the actress Frances Farmer. Francis is a man's name, as in Francis Sinatra.