I wondered about "weighing in" here, me being M2F CD and my SO being onsite too. My stepdaughter (18) and her/his (please excuse gender-defining words here) girl/boyfriend (also 18) have been "an item" since they were 14. They define themselves as F2M TS, with the friend intent on SRS, but with our daughter presently settled with her body as it is, tho not ruling out SRS at some future date. It's a long, long time since she told her mum she wanted to be a boy, and since then she always xdressed in male attire (except panties cos they feel nicer to her, and a bra (to flatten her chest)).

Here's the thing: they behave, speak, act, laugh, play, talk (in my opinion) like a pair of girls - it's like they're playing at being male, cos the behaviour is not hardwired male in a female body. I used to joke about it, not realising my own nature.

But here's the thing - are we mostly guys playing at being girls, doing it all in a man-like way?

So, to the point of the thread - you just don't notice the F2M's, cos they wear clothing that women can get away with, and they can look young-faced enough to explain the lack of beard - mean they get asked for ID all the time in shops or bars. It's not such a big deal for society, because passing is relatively easy f2m.

The next aspect is, yes, they're TS more than CD, cos they're experiencing life as a male in a female body, albeit that's conceptually not behaviorally. Any woman can CD into male clothes and no-one notices, its not a problem in society. And that's why we're mostly GM here.

that's my ha'penn'orth, argue away ...

xxx