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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana44 View Post
    I try to be a woman when I am feminine. I do many of the attributes that women have and one of them is the feminine traits. I have to agree with Reine, Many of the women have different personalities and display their femininity in different ways.
    Emphasis added by me in bold. The bolded section makes it pretty clear that you did not understand what Reine is talking about, so I'm not sure I can accept that you agree with her. To be clear, you're not the only one.

    There's a pretty fundamental abuse of terminology happening here, which leads to a fundamental disconnect in discussion. "Woman" is a lived gender identity. "Feminine" is a set of expressed characteristics stereotypically associated with women, but that is the extent to which they are related. Presenting feminine does not make you a woman, and being a woman does not mean that you necessarily present feminine. In my experience, the feelings of "femininity" described here very rarely have much to do with the ways in which women relate to their femininity, or at best are a fraction of them.

    If you are a male who is okay with being male and living largely as a man, then you are not a woman, regardless of how stereotypically feminine your presentation may be at times.
    Last edited by Zooey; 11-18-2016 at 10:38 PM.
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