Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielle Hermosa View Post


I'm a girly man. I've worked VERY hard my whole life to hide that fact from the world. I created (or society forced me to create) some fake person called "Gabe". I did it to survive in this unforgiving world. But I'm into girly fashion and appearances - THAT is the real me. THAT is what I chose to embrace. In time, I realized I didn't have a problem, it was society that had a problem with who I am. Too bad though. I'm me. When I decided to accept who I am, an amazing thing happened... I started feeling something new... HAPPY!
OK, I understand more of what you mean by celebrate now, so it's really just accepting who you are being who you are. Note what you said though above, about wanting girlie fashions and appearances, and about being a girly man. I'll explain below.


I lied to myself for MANY years. I stopped lying to myself when I embraced my life as myself (as a cd). There's nothing easy about being a cd in a world that seems hell-bent on perpetuating the lies about us, but this is me. I'm not changing who I am for anyone because there is NOTHING wrong with who I am. If someone has a problem with me, too bad for them. This is me and I make no apologies for who or what I am. I don't lie to myself about anything... not cd-related, anyway. You don't know how badly I'd like to talk one on one with you. There is WAAAAAAY too much to cover on this. Maybe you can shed some light on things for me though - what do you think I might be lying to myself about? Please tell me. I'll offer you an honest answer, or won't answer at all, but I won't lie about it.
What I'm saying you're lying to yourself or at least maybe I think you're not being clear is the whole girly thing. Ok maybe I'm old fashion or different but I see 2 different views of CDing arena. The first one is guys WANTING feminine fashion but still presenting themselves more or less as a guy in society. Like if I liked skirts (which I do) and I wore them in public or women's tops like blouse. BUT I would wear them as a guy, not using wigs or makeup. Hence this is the "liking girly fashions" I guess this is what most people stereotype homosexual men to be?

The other part of CD is basically most of us, presenting themselves like a girl, wig, makeup, trying to pass. Wearing the woman's jeans only when presented as a woman. Wearing forms and bras. Especially this point, as a "guy liking girly stuff" there is absolutely NO reason you need to wear a bra or forms. A bra is for breasts to support, that's like saying you want to wear a seatbelt when you're walking around... There is no purpose to that. If you want to pretend you're in a car all day long, yeah fine go wear a seatbelt to Wal-Mart, that's essentially same as being a woman and wearing forms and presenting as a girl in public.

This is what I am seeing in my opinion as lying or the difference and not being clear. I won't use labels because I don't care about labels, but at least I describe the behavior of these 2 differences.

What? Masturbation? Is that what bothers you? The fact that cd's **gasp** masturbate?

EVERYONE masturbates (with very few exceptions). Does it sit better with you to imagine some guy in front of a computer screen watching porn? That's pretty damn disgusting to me... although somehow much more accepted in society. What the hell does it matter how one masturbates? Do non-cd's often discuss how they love hugging their horn in other forums? Why on earth would people engage in that kind of discussion OUTSIDE a porn site?

Also keep in mind that most cd's get over the masturbation thing after a period of time. If (by chance) you're still getting a sexual charge out of it, does it bother you? If so, why? Is it because people might make fun of such things? What's so great about what THEY get a sexual charge out of? Please tell me... actually don't. I don't care to know.
First, I don't feel bothered about my sexual component in CDing, I love it, it actually drives a huge part of it. One of the god given rights of a GG is the sexual portion of being female and the role of it, so why would I dismiss it? I'm envious of it.

Sex is a fundamental part of every human on this planet, I just don't like the fact people dismiss sex as a nonCD aspect. I don't care who you are but sex DOES play a role, weather implicitly or explicitly. If we were genderless , then this forum wouldn't exist, it is because of sex that we have gender. Though don't take what I write as fact, I'm not a specialist in this area.. I'm merely an engineer.


Men are a one-size fits all thing? You know that you're different than many men, right?. What makes you think that only your differences are the only that exist? I got no plans on loosing my man-parts and I still LOVE cding and want to look as close to a real girl as possible. I shave my body hair and go through great lengths to remain fit and trim, some for medical reasons, but I really want a nice, thin, girly waist. I'm a man who loves to explore and (here comes that words again) celebrate my feminine side.

I can't stand people lying to themselves either. Even more so, I can't stand when someone believes they know me better than I know myself. How I wish you only knew what I've been through in my time on planet earth. What does it matter though? Everyone believes their life has been lived with more struggles than the next. So be it.
Again, it maybe wording and words, but I'm not really saying you're lying but just presenting a different reason which doesn't make it easier to understand.

I'm alot like you, I like my male self a lot still, I still enjoy doing a lot of things in the stereotypical male role, including in the bedroom. But I also want a cute waist and shaped eyebrows and I want to shave my legs. I don't think shaving legs is such a huge issue with guys anyways, a lot don't have hair on their legs and it not really a secondary sex characteristic.

But I would never say I want to be "girly" as a guy. I guess that's my view of myself. If I'm presenting myself as my male self, going out, I wouldn't wear a woman's blouse, I would wear a nice fitted shirt, with a tie if opportunity presents itself, looking like a cool hot guy that girls would love. I love girly jeans, but I wouldn't wear them in guy mode, it just doesn't look good, that's NOT the CD type I am. So I wouldn't really call myself being a guy into feminine fashion, I call myself being a woman at times and at other times a guy. I don't know if this makes any sense at all?