I just want to say that I respect Satrana very much. Her insight has helped me to understand many issues in the past. It looks as if we disagree on this one though, because the debate for me is not about what motivates or doesn't motivate someone to CD, but rather how the behaviors (when present) do affect the GGs.

The whole point for me in threads like these is to try to learn something, or in this case try to explain how GGs feel who are in these situations, in order to help bridge any gaps if at all possible. I agree with Sheila ... maybe one or two people will find this thread will help them improve their relationships.

Thanks for your vote of confidence though.