Quote Originally Posted by Satrana View Post
Which is precisely why CDs keep quiet about this.
Which is why many GG's feel we are always having to play catch up, no sooner do some of us get used to one layer, when bam we get hit by yet another layer being peeled away


Quote Originally Posted by Satrana View Post
It is difficult enough for CDs to convince our partners to be open minded about gender presentation, most balk at attempting to jump another hurdle. This is the real naivety of Tri-ess and the CD community in general - the desire to keep sexuality out of the equation because it seems like it is too much to cope with. Too many people unwilling to be fully honest about their deepest thoughts and desires. Although to be fair this is true of human race in general.
If CDERs were open, honest and up front from the beginning, then we would have no need to balk at yet more and more.(and yes I know why you say you don't tell us, shame, guilt, you thought it would all go away in this new relationship, fear of losing us etc etc) ....... Many of us ask in the beginning the questions, "are you gay" (we may not ask "are you /bi/bi curious", although perhaps we should !!!! "do you want to be a woman full time/have srs", to those and similar asked questions we are told no, then wham time and again we are having to cope with the truth further down the line, which will yat again lead to trust problems, is it any wonder so many TG relationships flounder in this continued hide and seek relationship maze

I can honestly say not a lot has surprised me in this thread, I, a long time ago, read between many lines of what was said in many many posts and by many posters, talked with several and had my suspicions confirmed, what had saddened (if not surprised me) is the continued need for deception that many feel they have to practice with their partners, so many REFUSE to HEAR & ACCEPT, what we as GG's are saying ................. WE HATE THE LIES AND DECEPTION ................ they are what destroy relationships, (many not just in the TG world relationships), I am not advocating that we would jump up and down with joy, or even accept what we hear, but finding out after years of lying to us is not going to help the situation one bit ............... there again those are just my views and may be far wrong