Quote Originally Posted by ReineD View Post
Gendermutt, re your comment above about the hyper masculine men. Let's put this in perspective.

How many ultra macho guys were there in your high school or college? The jocks on sports teams maybe? This leaves the vast majority of guys who would have been just regular guys, not ultra macho: the nerds, the quiet guys, the guys who minded their own business, the guys who weren't popular. So now imagine that most of them have found partners and they are in relationships today. This means that the vast majority of women DO NOT go for the ultra macho guys.

Sorry for being picky, but I can't tell you how often I read here the idea that women prefer ultra macho guys. This just isn't true. Most of us go for the regular guys, since this is what most of them are!
Reine- I might be guilty of some generalization here...The wording might be a bit strong "hyper" and many was general, doesn't really even mean most. What I was implying was that Cders are not going to be a choice for a substantial amount of women. I am trying to think of wording that just means a good number, but not necessarily most.

You, and the other GG's who are on this board and continue with your relationships with your CD S/O's are open minded women at the least. Having struggles with the CDing does not mean a woman is not open minded, but open minded enough that they are choosing to continue or start a relationship with a CDer. There are still a good portion of women who might not despise the CDers but for themselves will be of the mindset of thanks but no thanks. The gender crossing is just not for them, they prefer their men to be only on the male side of the gender fence. Masculinity both physical and emotional is what they prefer, although it doesn't necessarily need to be just the ultra or hyper masculinity.

Paul Teutal Sr. (Orange county choppers) comes to mind as a standard bearer of the hyper masculine type guy. Unless someone like him has a truly horrible personality, women would choose someone like him over a feminine guy who also had a good personality, likely a good majority of the time. It is just the nature of a majority of men and women. my post was merely to remind and give support to Alice that She is doing the right thing by putting herself out there for who she is and finding someone who will be open minded.