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    Quote Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
    I watched the 2nd season of I AM CAIT and I think this scenario applied to her. I think she was genuinely surprised by how different the social and political environment was for Cait, compared to Bruce. Anyway, it would seem that being able to cope with this hurdle is a very important part of the process.
    Yes, totally. There was a definite period in time where I'm pretty certain she honestly believed that Ted Cruz was going to welcome her with open arms and see the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenni_xx View Post
    There does seem to be a disconnect within this community. A hierarchy of how serious the problems that any member may face based upon how they regard themselves to be. A cross-dresser ranking lower on the scale of significance, if not importance, in regards to the issues that are at hand.

    I personally can not abide that. My problems are mine, and even if they do pale into insignificance to yours, that doesn't make my problems any easier to deal with. There is nothing worse than listening to a person get something of their chest, even explain something using words that may not be entirely appropriate, or even using words that may be misleading, only to have others focus on those words and meanings while at the same time losing sight of what it is that is actually trying to be said.
    Thank you for your response; I think it's thoughtful. The reason I brought up reading comprehension in my response to Teresa was very particular to her, but let's talk about this more generally, because I think this is a big sticking point, and I've tried to be as clear about it as I can.

    For anybody who thinks that I'm trying to diminish you, or claim superiority over you, please re-read what I wrote throughout this thread.

    At no point in this thread have I tried to say that CDs' problems are less significant than my own. They're certainly not less significant to the person having them. Any time I've brought up my problems, it's been because somebody else (like Teresa) tried to say that I (or we) just don't know how hard it is for them. I don't, and can't, understand your exact feelings - we're different, and it doesn't work that way. But I do understand guilt, loss, and pain. I sympathize.

    The CDs are the main ones, at least as far as I can tell, who are projecting this idea of hierarchy. I spent an entire post talking about how we are, at least, on the same level. In many ways, one could argue that you are better off, but we are not comparable like that. We are apples and oranges. We are simply different. Be the best CDs you can be, and love what you love. Be 100% of that, rather than trying to prove that you're 85% of me, and that I'm just too superior to understand. I'll be 100% of me over here.

    The only thing I came in here to discuss was what I see as an issue with CDs projecting their brand of femininity onto actual women, and saying some pretty misogynistic stuff as a result. That's not a critique on the value of you or your feelings. It's a critique of a particular action that's taken, that can be changed if people are conscious of it, and which has a direct impact on tolerance of, and within, this so called "trans community".
    Last edited by Zooey; 05-19-2016 at 04:31 PM.
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