How many of you are straight but flirt with men anyway?

[cdona20]

I'm part of a rather large online LGBT organization where members can access other member's pictures with a single click of the mouse. This sometimes gets me attention from both genders in the organization, but mostly bisexual men. When men start hitting on me the first thing I do is tell them what my underwear is covering and so far that has deterred none of them (I know that might sound silly to assume a bisexual man might be turned off but I figure maybe some men like both peanut butter and chocolate but hate a Resses Cup).

For the record, I'm straight (or Lesbian, whatever fits best).

So when none of them are turned off when I reveal I'm a CD, I usually let them flirt with me and I flirt right back. I like the attention and when a particularly handsome guy puts the moves on me, it feels so good to know he considers me "in his league". I usually try to stop it before it gets obscene but lets just say I've seen my fair share of unsolicited nude photos.

Anywho I just wondered if anyone else who was straight/lesbian liked to flirt with men or has any interesting stories to share.

[prene]

Yes,
I have but I very rarely go out by myself.
Safety in numbers, it is nice that the guys talk to you as a woman, I get a thrill out of that.
Most of the time they can tell after I say a few words.

It has scared me that I when I feel I look good (very feminine) I look and think about guys as a girl.

But only when I dress.

and I thought/think I am straight.

[Byron]

Only with my friends, safer that way.

Most of them know I'm a little strange anyway.

[docrobbysherry]

I didn't use to, but NOW I do! It's all harmless, really. If it gets nasty, I hit "DELETE"!

I recently posted a thread on this VERY subject, Cdona! There were a number of interesting replies if u can find it!

By the way, I'd be VERY SURPRISED if u didn't get hit on! You're avatar pic is very pretty!

[dsweet]

I'm straight, but I have to agree that the thought of men from a woman's perspective definitely comes into play for me. Most of the time this manifests as mental imagery of faceless men and the thought of me doing "naughty" things to them, seeing as how I feel so beautiful/sexy at the times that I have those thoughts.

...but I figure maybe some men like both peanut butter and chocolate but hate a Resses Cup).

- LOL!!! That's priceless :D

But to answer the thread question, I haven't had the opportunity as I have yet to go out en femme. One day..

P.S. - Your avatar pic is very pretty

[Stephenie S]

Excuse me?

I have a great deal of trouble believing that you are "straight" and still want to have anything to do with flirting with men. Shakespeare had something to say about this. Something about protesting too much?

We hear a whole lot of "I'm not gay, but . . . . . . .", around here.

JMHO

S

[Suzette Muguet de Mai]

I say tread wisely. It only takes one who cannot come to terms with an issue of CD that brings about pain. Online groups maybe ok to flirt for now, but in reality you just need to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time and be confronted by that wrong person even in male/female mode.

[katesometimes]

I have never gone out dressed, but in online games and chatrooms I have always played female characters but when asked identified myself as a crossdresser. Regardless, I'm a shameless flirt in these arenas. In real life, I'd probably rarely be out without my wife and would be less likely to flirt.

[CarlaWestin]

I think flirting is just part of the online experience. The anonymity of it all promotes flirting. I have a good online friend that knows that I'm not gay even though I make comments about his sexy a@@. Who knows, that guy flirting with you might just be your Aunt Myrtle.

[Barbara Dugan]

I am not straight, I flirt with guys all the time and some of them tell me they are straight:D..but to be honest I only take seriously the ones that state they are gay or bisexual.. I agree on the feel good feeling of being noticed by nice looking guys, I dont get it very often

[StarrOfDelite]

I am not straight, I flirt with guys all the time and some of them tell me they are straight:D..but to be honest I only take seriously the ones that state they are gay or bisexual.. I agree on the feel good feeling of being noticed by nice looking guys, I dont get it very often

You are so pretty that I refuse to believe that you don't get hit-on by nice looking guys, Barbara.

[sissystephanie]

When my wife was still alive, and did Stephanie's makeup and wig, I did occasionally get flirted with. But since I was a very happily married man, my response was always something to put a total stop to the flirting. Now that she is gone, even though I do go out dressed I still look like the man that I am since I wear no makeup or a wig. So I certainly don't get flirted with. And at my advanced age I really don't care!!

[Michelle.M]

Excuse me?

I have a great deal of trouble believing that you are "straight" and still want to have anything to do with flirting with men.

I suppose it all depends on how you see yourself, or (dare I say it?) what label you attach to yourself.

If you are a straight and crossdress, that makes sense. But remember there are many on this site who are in various stages of transition also, who do not identify themselves so much as crossdressers but rather they identify as transsexual. Unless they also identify as transbians it sort of follows that for them there will be some flirting with men.

[katesometimes]

You are so pretty that I refuse to believe that you don't get hit-on by nice looking guys, Barbara.

Me too! You are adorable.

[katesometimes]

Excuse me?

I have a great deal of trouble believing that you are "straight" and still want to have anything to do with flirting with men. Shakespeare had something to say about this. Something about protesting too much?

We hear a whole lot of "I'm not gay, but . . . . . . .", around here.

JMHO

S

I've struggled with how to define myself, even more so since coming here. I consider myself somewhat bi, but my only sex partner has been my wife. I have felt a sexual attraction to a few guys in the past, but it's rare and usually more their personality than anything else. I have never looked at a guy and said "I want him!"...well until coming here. So many of you girls are beautiful and sexy, but I see a women when I look at so many of you too...

[dsweet]

...well until coming here. So many of you girls are beautiful and sexy, but I see a women when I look at so many of you too...

Agreed! It's really something to see the inner person permeate the exterior..

[cdona20]

Excuse me?

I have a great deal of trouble believing that you are "straight" and still want to have anything to do with flirting with men. Shakespeare had something to say about this. Something about protesting too much?

We hear a whole lot of "I'm not gay, but . . . . . . .", around here.

JMHO

S

Well as I said, I like to flirt with men because of the attention I get. They compliment my looks, and some of my other features (smart, funny) and it makes me feel so feminine. And when they begin to describe sexual escapades (the point where I try to end it), it just feels good to know that I am so desirable that they would do stuff to me.

But I know for a fact that I am not bisexual because men (naked or clothed) do nothing for me down there.

[katesometimes]

Well as I said, I like to flirt with men because of the attention I get. The compliment my looks, and some of my other features (smart, funny) and it makes me feel so feminine. And when they begin to describe sexual escapades (the point where I try to end it), it just feels good to know that I am so desireable that they would do stuff to me.

Christie, I think your look (at least your avatar pic) is desirable to a lot of men. You have kind of a artsy rebel look to you. I know GG's with that look definitely work for me, even though I tend to go for the more mousy sexy types generally.

[Misti]

Originally Posted by Tatyana "...well until coming here. So many of you girls are beautiful and sexy, but I see a women when I look at so many of you too.... Christie, I think your look (at least your avatar pic) is [highly] desirable to a lot of men."

Originally Posted by dsweet "Agreed! It's really something to see the inner person permeate the exterior..."

Agreed! And, Agreed! And Misti could very well be a real flirt, too, if she were ever to escape the hen house alone? That moment of truth seems to be fast approaching, too, because she's only been out in male (head)/female (bodice) mode twice now (no wig or makeup and with the SO only) and she really dug "wiggling 'back there' while she walked" in her "new" Marilyn Monroe Shaping Briefs worn under her "new" tight, tight-fitting black women's pants? Anxiously looking forward to seeing what happens in the next episode, but still thinking lesbian, yet!

BTW It's easy to see from this vantage point why they do hit on you, Cdona. Enjoy!

[ReineD]

it is nice that the guys talk to you as a woman, I get a thrill out of that.

I'm straight, but I have to agree that the thought of men from a woman's perspective definitely comes into play for me. Most of the time this manifests as mental imagery of faceless men and the thought of me doing "naughty" things to them, seeing as how I feel

They compliment my looks, and some of my other features (smart, funny) and it makes me feel so feminine.

This has come up before, so if you'll bear with me, there's something I'd like to ask and not being TG it's more complicated for me, so I need to use a lot of words. lol

First, I do understand that when you are dressed, a guy's attention makes you feel more feminine because his masculinity puts your feminity in even greater contrast and it heightens it, compared to when you are with a woman who has an innate femininity. This part is easy to understand.

But this is what I don't get: regardless of whether you (and others) are attracted to men or not (since this isn't the point of my question), I gather a big part of the thrill is, you feel the admirers are treating you like women. But from everything I've read from people who have active profiles on those sites, the admirers are after TGs for the very thing that TGs are masking when they dress, namely, their male bits. Guys who are after TGs (for the most part) are not interested in post-ops. Or GGs. (Not the true admirers). Granted, I'm sure there are exceptions, but I'm just talking in general about the admirers who hang out in CD forums and dating sites and in TG bars. I also know the type well from my own personal experience, having gone to TG bars with my SO. One admirer even sent a napkin to my SO with a proposition written on it, while she and I were sitting together. lol. (I felt bad for her ... I wanted to joke about it but she was embarrassed).

Which brings me to my question ... doesn't this present a conflict for you? Does knowing that an admirer sees you fundamentally as a guy and he's just doing what guys do when they want sex, make you feel any less feminine? Or is this something you just don't like to think about when you are dressed? I hope you don't mind my asking, but it does fit in with the thread topic.

It just seems to me there are two different agendas going on between CDs and admirers and I was wondering if knowing the reality of it all makes any difference to your feminine feelings that become enhanced when you think they are seeing you as women. Or, like I said, does it make any difference?

I admire the brave souls who will tackle my question.

[Rogina B]

For me,it is about enjoying a little slice of "the power of the pussycat".Just getting to experience a little bit of the control that many women exude.It is more than just getting attention,it is also about control[girl is in charge of the dumb boys..girl keeps them focused on the project..girl tells them how to do it better,or prettier,or what to wear,or say,etc] I enjoy that form of control..As for flirting,the girl doesn't have to do a thing sometimes...a vague answer to a pointed question,or a slit in a skirt,or the glimpse of a garter...It just doesn't take much to rise to power! lol

[cdona20]

Which brings me to my question ... doesn't this present a conflict for you? Does knowing that an admirer sees you fundamentally as a guy and he's just doing what guys do when they want sex, make you feel any less feminine? Or is this something you just don't like to think about when you are dressed? I hope you don't mind my asking, but it does fit in with the thread topic.

I never really thought of it that way before. But having been hit on before without revealing my true gender to the perpetrator, I gotta say it isn't all that different than when they know I'm a CD. They say the same things, give the same compliments. So the attention doesn't feel any different.

I actually once turned a straight guy on to CD/TS. He doesn't like men at all except when they look like women (very passable women). I think that should count as evidence that CD/TS admirers don't see us fundamentally as guys but rather that they see us as women with a rather unfortunate birth defect.

So in the end I don't feel any less feminine because alot of the guys turned on by me may still identify as straight and are attracted to my womanly characteristics.

[RenneB]

Well now that's a subject I never thought of. I would consider myself a lover of the females only. If I do get to pass someday, I hope its with a woman.

Renne.....

[Sophie86]

I think that should count as evidence that CD/TS admirers don't see us fundamentally as guys but rather that they see us as women with a rather unfortunate fortunate birth defect.

Fixed that for ya.

[Thea Pauline]

Reine,

As interest from men is not in any way the reason I dress, I do not flirt. In fact, if I were out and about and experienced interest from a man, I would be uncomfortable, not due to any phobia, just not why I dress.
I am happily married and monogamous and really have no interest in other partners. When I'm dressed, one of my best fantasies is to be accepted by a group of women, such as a book club or other womens' social gathering. So, I guess for me, the dressing has gone far beyond any sexual connotation and is now another aspect of how I live my day to day life.
As far as how an admirer might view the situation, I'm don't mind serving as fantasy fodder, but will not do anything to further that agenda.

Renae